| Author | Message | ||
     kwigibow |
Is there any way to make hydrogen from electrolysis into liquid or gel? | ||
| Simon Quellen Field (Sfield) |
That's simple. Just cool it to 20.26 degrees Kelvin. | ||
| kwigibow |
Simple? I think not. | ||
| Simon Quellen Field (Sfield) |
You are confusing simple with easy. | ||
| kwigibow |
Good point. But how the heck can you get down to that temperature? That would have to be expensive wouldn't it? | ||
| Simon Quellen Field (Sfield) |
I am not aware of any inexpensive ways to liquify hydrogen, or to store the result. What is your application? | ||
| kwigibow |
I was thinking of creating some sort of small hydrogen powered model rocket. | ||
| kwigibow |
Have you ever taken one of those cans of air for dusting, turned it upside down and sprayed it? Some sort of chemical liquid comes out. This stuff gets extremely cold (almost burned myself wih it one time)! Could this possibly freeze hydrogen gas down to 20.26 kelvins? | ||
| Simon Quellen Field (Sfield) |
My guess is that it gets to about 260 kelvins. Only 240 more to go... | ||
| Anonymous |
If it got to 20 degrees it would freeze the air as it came out ;-) | ||
| Anonymous |
Wait... They dont say degrees with the kelvin scale do they? | ||
| kwigibow |
I think they say "kelvins" instead of degrees. | ||
| ABCinventor |
i think converting the electrolysis result into some sort of hydrogen compounds which is complicated and in liquid form can solve the whole cooling trouble but we need some sort of molecular decomposer and reconstructor... well one of such compound can be methane but is still in gaseous form... | ||
| Anonymous |
ignite it with oxygen. | ||
| Tristan Unregistered guest |
I wonder if there is a way to electrolysis the Hydrogen out of the water. Then suck it into another container and use some dry ice to freeze it. Though I am not sure that is possible and it would be very difficult to do anyway. | ||
| Anonymous |
Dry ice sublimates at 194.65 kelvin's degrees* Hydrogen boils at 20.268 kalvins* You couldn't even come close with dry ice. You'd probably need liquid helium (4.22kay)* to do it that way. Be careful, such cold tempertures exposed to the atmosphere can cause liquid oxygen to condense on the surface. * [All kelvens' stated for maximum annoyance of spelling police] | ||
| Anonymous Unregistered guest |
How about solid hydrogen? | ||
| Simon Quellen Field (Sfield) Senior Member Username: Sfield Post Number: 488 Registered: 12-2004 |
You could use solid hydrogen to liquify gaseous hydrogen, but what would be the point? Hydrogen melts at 14.01 degrees Kelvin. | ||
| jaycee (Unregistered Guest) Unregistered guest Posted From: 216.170.63.150 |
Here's a practcal use for liquid hydrogen-use it to freeze ice cream! Really! The faster it's frozen, the creamier it tastes. | ||
| Troy (Pharoah) Intermediate Member Username: Pharoah Post Number: 37 Registered: 3-2006 |
You would get frostbite from such ice cream. |
