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Hunter (Baseballplayer)
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Posted on Wednesday, June 22, 2005 - 9:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is there a crystal clock oscillator in anyhting i have around the house or could get at the store?
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Hunter (Baseballplayer)
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Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 2:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

i have an old computer where in it would i find the oscillator?
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Simon Quellen Field (Sfield)
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Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 10:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You are unlikely to find a 1 Mhz oscillator in things you
have lying around the house.
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Anonymous
 
Posted on Wednesday, July 6, 2005 - 7:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yes,You should buy 1Mhz oscillator from RadioShack
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Simon Quellen Field (Sfield)
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Posted on Wednesday, July 6, 2005 - 10:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The last time I checked, Radio Shack did not offer them.
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Anonymous
 
Posted on Friday, July 8, 2005 - 1:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

could he use a crytsal instead
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Anonymous
 
Posted on Friday, July 8, 2005 - 1:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

*crystal
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Simon Quellen Field (Sfield)
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Posted on Friday, July 8, 2005 - 2:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

No, he needs an oscillator.
A crystal is just a rock.
It won't send a signal.
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scwis
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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 8:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

There are a variety of older computer interface cards that have oscillator cans on them - unfortunately, these do not operate at AM BCB freqs. As any ham radio enthusiast will tell you, however, fundamental frequency output is only one of the many signals that come out of an unfiltered oscillator. Third and ninth order harmonics can be especially strong, depending on the manner in which the can is manufactured. A 4.5 MHz can might be present on 1.5 MHz, also known as 1500 KHz at the high end of the dial. A 9 MHz can might come in fine on 1000 KHZ, towards the center in the AM BCB.

On the other hand, if you happen to have access to a shortwave receiver or a scanner that gets the aircraft bands (AM modulation), you can probably use one of those to receive the fundamental freq of a transmitter based on a PC oscillator. If you find any really old cards (ibm XT days) you will find some cans that run pretty low, perhaps all the way down to 2 MHz. Older modems have cans in the 3 - 33 MHz range, and older EGA video cards frequently have 24 - 44 MHz cans. Older VGA cards and 486 MoBos will have cans that run up to 66 MHz. Sound cards have all kinds.

WARNING!!!

Low power radio experimentation is not welcome in all bands :-)

The higher freq cans could throw out a bit more range, too, simply because the higher frequencies are easier to match to a short antenna. Higher freqs depend less on grounding, as well.

Using a PC oscillator takes your project out of the realm of what this site proposes, but if you're careful it could be fun.
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Simon Quellen Field (Sfield)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 9:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Another problem with this idea is that if you use an oscillator
with a frequency that is common in computers, then all the nearby
computers will compete with your signal.
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Anonymous
 
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Posted on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 - 2:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

what about building one with an inductor capacitor circuit
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Simon Quellen Field (Sfield)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 2, 2005 - 4:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Go for it.
I chose the crystal oscillator because the entire circuit is already
there, making it easy for kids to build and get right. Building a
transistor circuit to oscillate at a megahertz is not so easy for
them to get right. The oscillator always works right off the bat.
The usual problems are connecting an 8 ohm sound source (most kids
try to connect their ipods to it, and the ipod doesn't have the power
to make it work).

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