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Rick Vicars
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Posted on Monday, January 10, 2005 - 1:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How do you make one power full enough to shoot at a target, say 50 feet away.
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marusushi
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Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 6:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Use a lot of magnets.
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Dan Stone
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Posted on Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 11:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I built a gun that would shoot about 15 feet using 3/8" dia steel ball bearings and 1/2" dia X approx. 5/8" long cylindrical neodymium magnets. It had 4 stages. My magnets were simply scotch taped to an aluminum c-channel rail.

For your needs, the first consideration should be to fix the magnets to your rail as rigidly as possible. Also, the entire apperatus should be rigidly fixed to avoid energy loss through recoil. Try to get some neodymium cylindrical magnets around 3/4" diameter and at least as long; perhaps 5 of them. I would recommend using a 3/8" steel ball bearing as the projectile. It may require some ingenuity, and perhaps some machining to manufacture a rigid apparatus, but 50 feet seems to me a pretty attainable distance.

Take care! The exit velocity will be extremely dangerous. Also, your magnets--even if coated--WILL crack and break. They may or may not escape destruction on the first shot. Wear goggles, and make sure you aim at nothing! Sounds like a helluva lotta fun!
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Simon Quellen Field (sfield)
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Posted on Monday, January 31, 2005 - 10:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The force transmitted to the balls will be at a
maximum if the balls and the magnets have the same
mass, and if the balls hit the center of the magnets.

This is why we sell the balls and magnets that we do,
since they are pretty close to perfect when the
grooved ruler is used.

Using aluminum will cause some extra losses due to
eddy currents in the metal. Wood is thus preferred.

The 3/8ths inch ball will not hit the 1/2 inch
magnet in the center, and you will thus not get
the best energy transfer.

If the mass of the ball is the same as the mass of
the magnet, the magnet will not move. This is the
same as hitting a row of billiard balls with the
cue ball -- only the last ball will move. Thus,
if the balls and the magnets are well matched,
you will only need a little bit of tape to keep
the magnets from jumping together.
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lysdexia
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Posted on Sunday, March 6, 2005 - 7:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

powerful
apparatus

A flaw in this mechanical engineering thinking is that the elements do not know what masses each and every are: They only respond to forces outside them, and from those the designer assumes or misassumes a respective mass, which only corresponds to an effective mass determined by how well the system is bolted down.

One can then use a lighter magnet that uses the mass of the rail to stay. Never mind the rail, you can just tape the magnets to a flat surface in whatever configuration you like. But try making a bunch of cardboard discs, taping a series of elements around the edge, cutting out a ramp on each disc, and skewering the discs on a pole as a quasihelical accelerator with a track length only limited by the sky.
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Anonymous
 
Posted on Friday, April 15, 2005 - 10:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I don't think lizzard has built one.
Listen to Mr. Stone instead.
Mr. Field should add a spell checker to the board so that
lizzard has time to actually build something.
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anonymous dan (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 8:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The real ones they make have to be 1 mile long if it goes straight and 15
miles in diameter to go in a circle. These are called proton accelorators.
it's amazing how much they pick up in speed, it's like it is exponential!
NASA used this to test what a grain of sand in space would do to voyager 1 if the craft was going 17,000 miles per second (102,0000 Miles per hour).
to design against this they made the craft with puncture-resistant metal lined up like this ||||||| so that when the sand grain came
along it did this >/|||| (pretend > is the sand grain).
sorry just had to add to this discussion.

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