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marusushi
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 10:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Here is a neat little trick that I just discovered. Here's how to make an electric shocker, using only a sprinkler solenoid and a 9 volt battery.

Take the solenoid, and remove the iron core. Take one lead from the solenoid, and connect it to a small metal rod (screwdriver, nail etc...) Now take the other solenoid lead, and press it down firmly with your finger on to one of the battery leads (either one), and hold it there. Now with your other hand, take the metal rod, and tap it on the other battery lead. Felt that? That scared me the first time that happened when I was experimenting with the solenoid. I wonder if a bigger rod would produce a larger shock. I also wonder how dangerous it would be to use a rechargable car battery. Unfortunately, I am too afraid to test this out, but if anyone has any ideas, let me know.
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Simon Quellen Field (Sfield)
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 10:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This is how the spark in your car engine is created.
The ignition coil is a larger version of your solenoid coil.
When current goes through the coil, a magnetic field is generated.
When the current is interrupted, the field collapses, and as the field
lines move through the coil, they generate a high voltage, and you get
a spark through the spark plug.
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marusushi
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 11:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Let's say that I used a huge, long metal bar for the metal rod, and connect another one to the other battery lead which is already connected to the other solenoid lead. Would it be dangerous or lethal? Or is there a way that I can get a nice long spark from doing this?
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ABCinventor
Posted on Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 11:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

hey you are speaking about tazers?? tazers uses capicators to create an even larger current. and its powered by 3 volt batteries...
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marusushi
Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 12:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

in a sense, only the shock that I am getting doesn't have a very visible spark, and I think tazers work on AC, and this is using DC.
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marusushi
Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 2:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ouch! I used two dumbel rods! This hurts like heck! I'm going to try to measure the output voltage with my multimeter. I'm not quite sure how I will do this. I wonder if there are any practical (or fun) uses for this.
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marusushi
Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 6:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there a way that I can make the high voltage flow continuusly so that I am constantly being shocked.
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ABCinventor
Posted on Monday, November 29, 2004 - 11:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

hey i just saw a new toy called the "forever flashlight". by shacking the magnet
in the core that is in a solenoid core, it creates a charge that can be used to
charge the capicitor. the capacitor then discharges to power the LED!! sounds
cool isn't it?

i think simon should addthis to the web...
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Anonymous
Posted on Thursday, December 2, 2004 - 6:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I was building a cicuit with my circuit board and was using a transformer, and I got a shock. Is that the same kind of thing?
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WeldMan
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Posted on Monday, December 20, 2004 - 1:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

now i would not do this
but in my electricity class we hooked up a fluorescent light balast and touched the output wires

the balast boosts the voltage but not the amps
and in electricity amps is what kills you

so if your asking what it felt like

it hurt ALLOT

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Anonymous
 
Posted on Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - 1:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

yeah, I've had a similar experience. By the way, never charge a flourescent bulb with a van de graff generator. It acts like a mega capacitor, and shocks the heck outta you.
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countrycutie
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Posted on Thursday, December 23, 2004 - 8:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey,
I heard about some kind of security system that my grandpa rigged up on his car where if you touched it, u got shocked. Can one of ya'll tell me how I can make something like that? Its sounds like it could be fun hehe Thanx
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marusushi
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Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 12:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Interesting idea. I'll try to come up with something like that. I actually have charged my friend's car using a leyden jar. It only works once though, but it's extremely shocking.

Read the section on the message boards about leyden jars.
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lysdexia
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Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 10:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

ballast
you're
A LOT
fluorescent

It's neither voltage or amperage that kills; it's absorbed, directed wattage.
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Simon Quellen Field (sfield)
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Posted on Monday, December 27, 2004 - 9:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Of course any number of volts with zero current
won't hurt anyone. But if I put a few milliamps
through your heart, I can kill you. I don't need
to cook you. Now, in order to put those milliamps
through you, I will need enough voltage to overcome
your resistance, and so we are talking about
wattage, and you are entirely correct.

But the old adage "It's volts that jolts but
mills that kills" is still also correct. You
can't get milliamps without energy, which is
measured in watts.
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lysdexia
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 7:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Energy isn't measured in watts! bwahaha, you're wrong again...
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lysdexia
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Posted on Tuesday, December 28, 2004 - 7:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

oh yeah, dumbbell
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Felipe G.
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Posted on Saturday, June 4, 2005 - 6:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Would it be possible to conect a capicitor by means of a 3 way switch to a trnsformer and make high voltage ( pluse a power source to charge the capictor)?
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Felipe G.
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Posted on Saturday, June 4, 2005 - 6:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Edit I mean plus not pulse (plus a power source to charge the capictor)?
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Willner Veritch (Camusaplus)
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Posted on Tuesday, July 1, 2008 - 8:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Let us try to illuminite this asinnine behavior of mendasious correction of anothur's trivile mistakes.
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scott (Ichyc)
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Posted on Wednesday, July 2, 2008 - 12:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

WTF???

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