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Noura Howell
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Posted on Saturday, March 5, 2005 - 8:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I heard a rumor that Red #40 is made from a type of beetle. Though your website says that these dyes are made "mostly," from petroleum, I still wonder if this is true. I'm vegetarian, and so I wonder about these things.. By the way, I think this public message board is a great idea. Once I major in chemistry, I'm sure I'll like your website even more.
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AnotherAnonymous
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Posted on Saturday, March 5, 2005 - 9:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

#40 is an animal-free version of red:
http://www.snopes.com/food/ingredient/bugjuice.htm

Slightly related:
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_118.html
http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/merythorbate.html

It is pretty hard to find a food that is not part animal, or part animal product or byproduct. Jell-o, most cheeses (rennet), even most calcium supplements (ground animal bones are sure plentiful).

Of course you have to define what an animal is (is a sea cucumber an animal after it eats its own brain?) before you can draw the line. Is it ok to eat calcium from coral if the coral is dead? Is fermenting of yeast cruel?
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marusushi
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Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 2:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

yeast is a type of fungi
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lysdexia
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Posted on Monday, March 7, 2005 - 2:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Don't forget fossil fuels. Countless organisms gave their life just so we could exploit them. Oh wait, I should tell this to the vegans...

If I eat my fingernails, does that make me a cannibal?
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Noura Howell
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 - 5:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Fossil fuels come from things long dead. We didn't kill them. I hope even a vegan wouldn't care.

Thanks for the links.
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Simon Quellen Field (sfield)
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Posted on Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 5:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Red #40 is not made from beetles.
You are thinking of carmine.
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Marat Orazov (Marat_o)
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Posted on Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 10:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Then again if it was imagine how many beetles would have to be bread to make enough to color all the things red 40 is in, I can just see the beetle farms :D
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marmalade chainsaw
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Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2005 - 8:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

i don't understand what red 40 is.....All i know about is anime and kitties! :P :-)
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Marat Orazov (Marat_o)
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Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2005 - 8:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

red 40 is a chemical used to color food
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AnotherAnonymous
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Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2005 - 11:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

red40
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Marat Orazov (Marat_o)
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Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2005 - 11:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

lol nice

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